we just came home from a great evening in Oakland. we drove there from San Francisco with Maddie Fernandez, a great person! we arrived at the warehouse where several people are living, it reminded us a little bit of moe (mmooee.org) in Vienna, but it was warmer an more like a living room. three great bands were playing there and the people here are really open minded and friendly! what an experience.. different many crumpy and precautious people back home! check out these duckyousucker, Frozen Folk, and Cheap Bliss!